Well I finally pulled the bow back on a deer in NC ..mowed moms grass and seeded & aerated got done at 5:30..still had a little time to hunt so quick change then to lease property in Catawba county..climbed in stand and had deer out within 5 mins..saw 5 total and this 4 pointer 3 on one side and spike on other came within 20 yards...made a good shot and he only went approx 100 yards.rage hypodermic broad head, carbon express kV 350 arrows, Scott release, G5 shift bow, toxonics sigjts..time to make some jerky..